Frequencies do not show up when base is small

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I'm trying to set up a frequency table on a variable that has a base under 50. Nothing shows up. I can't figure out where the option is to turn on/off.


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robsmith Apr 26, 2018

Maybe the Low N settings are preventing it from showing. If you look under the Formatting tab, the first button on the left is Low N. Click that and see if unchecking any of the checkboxes will help.

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user-b432f7cd Apr 26, 2018

I had great difficulty finding this. Thanks.

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user-b432f7cd Apr 26, 2018

What settings do I need to use to stop it from hiding anything? I just want to see every number and have nothing hidden.

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Under Table Formatting, uncheck "Show symbol in cells with 0 < N < cutoff". You may also want to uncheck "highlight cells with 0 < N < cutoff", but the purpose of that checkbox is to just change the color of the cell slightly so you can still see the value. – robsmith 4/26/2018 8:44:21 PM

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That did not work for me. https://ibb.co/c9eAmx – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 8:48:58 PM

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user-b432f7cd Apr 26, 2018

I'm trying various combinations of settings and, none will make any of the numbers show up. The "Hide results where N < cutoff" box wasn't even checked off to begin with, but everything was hidden. I can set the cutoff to 1, with that option turned off, and everything is still hidden.

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It sounds like the issue may not be related to low N then. One other thing to check would be syntax. Occasionally one measure with bad syntax can mess up a table. Do you think that could be it? You could try deleting measures one by one to see if you can find an offending measure. – robsmith 4/26/2018 8:47:37 PM

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I thought it was a syntax issue too. But I'm not writing it in manually. I'm selecting frequencies under available measures, and adding levels that way. – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 8:50:17 PM

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Here is the entire table's syntax: https://ibb.co/hNdNYc – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 8:51:47 PM

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(Edit: this comment is incorrect) Thanks for sending the syntax! Since you didn't write the syntax manually, I'm guessing you used the Reduce Base window and entered multiple values in the box. Only one value is supported. So that window created invalid syntax for you...

The nullifeq function only supports two arguments, with the second argument being the value to exclude from the base. In order to exclude multiple values from the base, you'll have to manually edit the syntax:

Change: nullifeq(r1,-7,-8,-9) to: nullifeq(nullifeq(nullifeq(r1,-7),-8),-9)robsmith 4/26/2018 9:06:19 PM

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Thanks, I'll try that. But I'm confused. Why would nullifeq fail only for counts, but work fine with percents? – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 9:33:01 PM

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That didn't work for me either: https://ibb.co/cX2XYc – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 9:35:43 PM

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Also, I tried using that syntax format in another data file with larger bases, and it worked perfectly fine. It's only going blank for bases under 50. – user-b432f7cd 4/26/2018 9:36:35 PM

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Good point about it working with percents. After further investigation, I see that nullifeq actually does support multiple args. I think you've found a bug with the countin function. I'm investigating it further. – robsmith 4/26/2018 9:38:19 PM

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I have a question... are you computing weighted frequencies? And if so, is there a chance that your weight has missing values for the records where r1 has a value of 1,2,3,4 or 5? There may be a slight difference between the way countin and pctin handle missing weight values. – robsmith 4/26/2018 10:02:09 PM

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That was it! There was a weight var assigned but not actually present in the dataset. When I disabled the weight the frequencies appeared. There must be a difference in how pctin and countin interact with the weight var, because only countin is affected when a weight is assigned but the var not present in the dataset. – user-b432f7cd 4/27/2018 1:41:46 PM

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